Diagram# 57. Can you give some circuit similar to the above one, but for 220V AC, please? From pin 5 capacitor and resistor in sequence to the gound? Price: $14.99 … Unlike your second circuit it uses thyristor (SCR), not triac. Constant torque is achieved by the use of PWMs which prevent the devices from unnecessarily heating up yet allowing them to conduct fully during the ON states of the devices.So it's like allowing the devices to conduct fully with full power yet only at the desired slower speeds by breaking their conduction many number of times per second. dear sir. Description: Treadmills How To Read Wiring Diagrams Treadmill Circuit Diagram intended for Treadmill Wiring Diagram, image size 800 X 565 px, and to view image details please click the image. The circuit looks like it is for a 12v motor. Thanks for your time!! a buck converter concept must be incorporated for dropping the voltage or the other short cut method would be to use a series 50 v lamp. And are they suitable choice instead of transformators? I have changed the IRF540 mosfet to the IRFP250 mosfet. Dear Swagatam. have a question about the schematic with dimmer. The bulb gets brighter and dimmer and the voltage across it varies nicely from 0V to 220V, but the motor is not moving at all.Do you think the bulb is providing too much resistance? Do half-wave and full-wave rectification give one and the same effective value of the rectified voltage?! https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14202770_1296733277004994_1265347398383427082_n.jpg?oh=7ec61067d78551b101014a22e3d00e79&oe=5885D7A5. secondly would it be possible to use a dpdt switch instead of the transistor h-bridge for directional control of the pwm signal or would that not work? ?thank you, please do exactly as shown in the first diagram, you will succeed in getting the intended results. Hi Rob, I tried to search for a 350V/400V 5/7 amp PNP Darlington transistor but strangely I could not find a single appropriate one. Hi Swag, Your site is awesome. The motor will not be loaded at the maximum power rate but still isn't 4A too less? Hello Again, I need some clarification about the second circuit mostly for types of pars. Is that not the case? Hello, Thanks a lot for teaching me so much in electronics. the dimmer chopper circuit above can be used as is it, or some components should be changed. as far as guidance is concerned, I am always ready and I have always been helpful to everybody in this blog, and all have shown tremendous trust in me and my work. yes IC 556 will work as good as two IC555…. the BC547 should be actually BC557, please note this. I tried connecting it to the treadmill and it blew the fuse in the dimmer and destroyed it. Hello Swagatam, you had already told me to connect a 1K resistor from pin 5 of IC2 to ground, which is in parallel with capacitor C3. you can either search for a suitable single device or connect many of these in parallel, just make sure all of these are mounted over a single common heatsink. Question The VCC is 15v but wasn't sure if it's DC or AC on your schematic. I don't know only what should be those Darlingtons? as mentioned in above comments i should make first circuit and to be eliminated N1 to N6 and S1 joining R6&7 to 2nd ic pin 3. sir. Hi, Could you explain how a constant torque at low speeds is achieved? Hi Jayanath, yes NPN is available but PNP is not available. I want to use a PWM module to control the motor. Community Q&A Search. The 180V could be achieved through a half wave rectification using a single 6A4 diode and filtered using a 10uF/400V capacitor. I was though different symbol at my class and realize American standard symbol and Europe symbol look very different. Tell him to design a transformer which would be able to supply 150V/6amp from 220V….this output can be then bridge rectified and filtered to acquire the required 180v for your motor. ….1N4744 are zener diodes and will never work here, you'll have to use rectifier diodes such as 6A4 etc. Hi, what is the wattage or current rating of your motor. Or perhaps my several earlier attempts have blown the motor. Would you post a proper simple circuit of it for my case (which is the case of the theme at all). Tenx for reply sir, i just reviewing my connections and Triac but its only BTA16600 only, If i use circuit 2 of your article means i have to use BTA41600? How about just changing the gate voltage in order to control the drain current? That why i'm asking the property value and which you used for the project that work and from there I cant experiment. I have lathe which the electronic control went bad on … its got a 250w 110 vdc motor and i want to build a circut like the first one at the top of the page to use as a speed controller. This type of starter cannot be used for a series machine. The motor controller runs the motor at the speed you select at the console. dear sir is it BT 136 capable for the load of 2HP 180vdc motor ? The idea was requested by Mr. Samuel. Mosfet based DC Motor Speed Controller. Swagatam, thank you for your input. any pointer would help. I'm new to electronics so please excuse me if these are dumb questions. the 180V can be derived from either a step down transformer or from an smps adapter, which may be specially designed and procured for your application. My treadmill bogs down slightly with each step when I get below about 1.2mph. thanks again for early replies. the 130vdc thank you. I have ordered everything I need to build the circuit and am waiting for arrival so I will keep you updated with how it goes. Hi Jayanth, Rectified 220 V will become 310 V DC which may be too high for the motor. confuse sorry still learning the symbol, in the first circuit those are 25V rated since the supply is 12 to 15V. I am new and lost with all your excellent info.Robert. Why are the BJTs better here, as I understand BJTs are preferred for low current applications, while MOSFETs are for high power functions. Why they are not used widely as voltage regulator? With other words, there is not any stepless driving of the load – just on or off. I thinking about to assemble your second schematic but i am not pretty sure it will work on my treadmill motor, (220VDC 1.35KW and around 8Amp) the rating of the motor. A perfect smooth driving is not really necessary to me, it is used to drive a diy small flour mill. you can refer to this page for the clear diagram, 2.bp.blogspot.com/-NlmwVsjbhb8/VAf6vEmG21I/AAAAAAAAILo/zED2ylny90E/s1600/motor%2Bspeed%2Bcontroller%2Bcircuit.png. Treadmill Doctor is your source for treadmill and elliptical parts. if the blowing-up of the triac was the issue, in that case you try using a bigger and a higher rated triac, and also employ a fuse in series, that would solve the issue. hello, I made the second circuit replacing the mosfet for irfp460 to run a 180v treadmill motor, the problem is that the mosfet overheats and the motor shuts down, what would be the problem? must feed 180v treadmill motor. . is it ok to connect rectified 220vac through rectifier to the given points of the motor directly? . Thank you very much. i'll try to update the info in the diagram soon…. Not sure if I have broken the treadmill.Do you have any idea what I am doing wrong? Here's a simple PWM based motor speed controller circuit which can be used for controlling a treadmill speed right from zero to maximum. I used a light bulb as a load, because the motor is a very risky try. 3rd since i plan on full bridge rectification of 110vac mains and am expecting to end up some where around 156v dc after rectification and my motor only needs 110v would i be able to use a voltage divider to create the 15v vcc input? For MOSFET also I couldn’t find a p-channel 400 v 10 amp device. If re-calibration does not work treadmill has a bad motor controller of DC motor drive. Would you provide such circuit, mr. Majumdar? . Increasing the 220uF value increases the soft start effect and vice versa.”. Does a shottky across the motor (snubber ) is usefull as protection or is not necessary to this motor ? If the requirement is above 30 amps mosfets could be preferred…mosfets require stricter parameters while configuring compared to BJTs therefore sometimes become difficult to handle.however in the above design mosfets could be used since the configuration does not demand a high side driver due to the involvement of both n/p mosftes.. This DIY repair guide explains how to replace the motor controller on a treadmill. I'm absolutely (120%) that it was correctly assembled. I don’t think the motor would consume 19 amps without the flywheel. Hi Horacio, In the second diagram I forgot to show the 1k resistor across pin5 and ground line of the IC2. What should their values be? The replacement motor control board is an MC and the original is an MC The wiring appears to be different and I want to know if I can use the MC and how to wire it. the source of the mosfet will connect with the circuit negative. This warranty does not cover damage arising from improper installation, electrical shorts or surges in other parts or house wiring, a worn out belt and/or deck, or acts of God. It seems the 2 BC547 Darlington is too sensitive to the pot movements. The above triangle waves is instantly compared by the set potential at pin#5 of IC2 creating an equivalent level of chopped PWM at its pin#3. Hi Peter, yes + indicates the +12V line of the circuit itself. Previous: Operating Single Rice Bulb Lamp with 220V AC, Next: Electronic Scoreboard Circuit Using IC 4033 Counter. Hi, Mr.Majumdar, the dimmer circuit simply does not work, I did 3 times, the load works always at the grid's voltage (220V), no matter the potentiometer setting. here a link of my half work so far. One was the motor controller and the other was for the display and linear actuator that changed the incline. I mistakenly thought that you had used the zener in the motor bridge circuit,….surely it will do in place of the shown 2.7V zener. For 3 HP just make sure to replace the triac with a BTA41/600 so that it is able handle the rated current comfortably, Swag the new motor for the drill press is a D.C. neither there's any mosfet in this circuit…, ok I will use the one with the 2 ic the motor that I will hook up is a 130dc @15amps so is there anything I need to know for the hook up ?? To power the lamp I used a 220 to 110 VAC transformer (here in Argentinda we use 220V line) that I then rectified with a KBPC3506. Hi Kamaal, you can try the second circuit from the above article. Dear Sir, I have a brushed motor dc 50 V 2A max. Could you show us what this circuit would look like without the components necessary for the reverse feature and how I could make this work using 110vac i.e. To simulate the engine I used an incandescent lamp. Horacio from Argentina. Hi Nick, I seem to have lost your previous comment, not sure how and where. Hello Swag, How can this circuit be used for 180Vdc 5.5 A motor? The LED brightness must vary from 0 to max in response to the pot variations. The PWM option is also great but compared to the dimmer circuit ity looks much complicated and technically difficult. This level is directly translated through optimized PWMs at pin#3 of the same IC as explained above. Is the capacitor too big/small? so i can check the components. Anyway . Now, i know i have to change to a mosfet with a current rating of about 15A based on my motor specification but i dont know how to make the system operate at up to 180V. the mosfet upper lead which is drain needs to be connected with the motor negative, while the positive of the motor will connect with the 110V DC or whatever may be the motor operational voltage spec. Mr.Majumdar as you said at the begining "Here's a SIMPLE PWM based motor speed controller circuit which can be used for controlling a treadmill speed right from zero to maximum." if the input supply is a 24V battery then you will have to employ a boost converter circuit for acquring the required 180V, you can try the following design for the conversion: https://homemade-circuits.com/2013/03/how-to-convert-12v-dc-to-220v-ac-using.html, the IC 555 supply should be protected with a 7812 IC as it's not specified to work with 24V, the simple circuit 12vdc that says dummy load connected to the mosfet, 1.bp.blogspot.com/-jONLYQ8Ehro/UkD_gzAjA-I/AAAAAAAAFSk/nt6vxMDF9RU/s1600/ELC+circuit.pnghere it is. Do you think I’m making a mistake? If the riac is appropriately ated it will be able to handle the initial surge. please advise me how to deactivate the sensor circuit & optocoupler circuit? As rightly suggested by one of the dedicated readers of this blog, Mr. Ivan, a 180 V treadmill motor can be simply controlled through mains phase chopping concept, normally incorporated in all commercial dimmer switches for regulating home fan speed. 100 is 100 ohms, you can use lower values than this for the mosfet gate, sounds good : but on ic 2 pin 3 what dose 100 mean ?? Where would the ac come in and where would it be rectified? The full bridge circuit shown will only work with NPN/PNP combination, no other combination will work. I have been planning to use Arduino UNO, the problem is finding the relevant H-bridge driver since the PWM from the arduino is about 5V. Hi Kakooza, if it's a DC motor then you can definitely use the first design which is explained in the above article. Advertisement. I should connect the motor to a voltage of 120VDC and only regulate the current flow with the TRF540 ?. First i put a 100w bulb instead motor. 3) tight the key panel flexible cable vs display board 4) then connector display board vs lower board.5) test the main motor controller bOARDEC for 5+vdc, to display schematron.org the block diagram how the main motor controller has 90% aprox for control functions of any schematron.orgely. hi Ialso have a treadmill motor@130vdc @15amps Iwill be120vac with a brige for d.cv and feeding the ic with 0-18 vdc after wiring and putting in all the parts needed, my question is where dose the 130vdc come from to hook up the motor??? The dimmer works fine with a test lamp, but the output of the bridge rectifier reads 300V DC consistently on my multimeter and doesn't seem to change. If your motor is 220V rated then you can perhaps try the last circuit. Hi Peter, if a capacitor is used the whole idea of PWM control would get mitigated, because adding filter capacitor would cause a constant peak voltage for the motor and stop the PWM function from controlling the motor speed. Hi Majudar,I want to construct a motor controller based on the open source design here, https://www.dropbox.com/s/if915wxhl8ninua/osmc3-2%20sch.pdf?dl=0. yes the existing mosfet will need to be replaced with a different mosfet having 200V/5 amp or nearby specs. Also let me know if this motor can be run both sides. The PWMs are fed across two sets of NOT gates via an SPDT toggle switch. But before I soldered the components I did a test on a breadboard. Please remove the two BC547 transistors from pin5 of IC2, remove the associated parts like R9, C5, 10k pot. The diagram looks OK, except the transistors in the bridge…you'll need to swap T4/T5 and T2/T3 positions. At all I intend to use this circuit: 2.bp.blogspot.com/-wJnI3vNWGoo/UoxAV_X6LyI/AAAAAAAAFxU/7NZJ4A2bg88/s1600/treadmill+motor+speed+controller+circuit.png. thanks in advanced, so i have this information, cc motor 2.0hpm 180v. the PWM pot can be appropriately set such that the maximum output never exceeds the 110V DC for the motor. Does that work? For the last circuit also you said the triac burnt, whereas as per the datasheet the triac is rated to handle 40 amp continuously and 200 amps in the form of short pulses, that's again extremely strange….the datasheet cannot be wrong? Any IC 555 will work. Thanks Bro The world needs more like you. Hi Jayanath, BT136 will support upto 200 watts only. . Hello Swagatam, I am thinking of building the circuit without reverse to control a 120DC treadmill motor with 2.5 HP for which I will use the IRFP250 mosfet. As for the last circuit, It looks to be technically correct, however a closer inspection shows that the inclusion of the filter capacitor across the bridge rectifier could be causing the issue, please remove it and test it once again. I'll check the datasheet of the driver IC and try to update the info soon for you. Sorry Linus, that may not be possible because I have not seen the board practically so have no idea regarding the various stages. And finally, if there's a man on the treadmills belt when the problem occurs, he will fall down, with possible injury. ok but there is a problem while making coil sir. thank you. Your blog (which I consider very useful and interesting) is visited as you can see (at least this theme) by newcommers. Can you help me with this problem sir?Thank you very much. OK, no problem….then you can go with the first PWM based concept, let me know if you have problems while making it…. 2) The negetive line of 180VDc goes to common which indicated “0 in circle” in the circuit ! This greatly increases the … In your first diagram is there any reason you do not include a smoothing capacitor across the bridge rectifier. And do you have a proposal for the Q1 replacement? It is label rated at input: 120ac 60hz. The other way is to use half-wave rectifier (single diode) and a capacitor behind it in order to get smoothed voltage with the value motor needs. sorry I can't verify the pics because it can be too time consuming…but I can assure you that the circuit in the first diagram is correct and has been tested by me, now it's upto you to discover the faults by checking it stage wise. Have three wires, red, white and green. Like is 1 actually 1 and not some other pin? Exactly that was my second question. Sorry i'm still learning electronic circuit. Are 100V enough for Q1 in my case?How about C3 (the reservoir capacitor) from the link? dear sir i also have 2 HP 180vdc treadmill motor. in the above article 555 IC are shown but if you wish you can use a single 556 instead of the shown two 555. voltage is not indicated because different users may have different voltage requirements as per their motor specs. Your timely help would be highly appreciated, Thanks & Regards Linus Fernandez. Besides that, the noise from the motor becomes louder when the RPM's go down. But what i dont know is the long time effects. Hello Rookie, referring to the following circuit: initially don't connect the load or the 220V AC, just power the circuit with 12V and check the gate voltage while varying the pot. the continuous 330V is definitely because of the filter capacitor which is providing a back discharge and not allowing the peak voltage to drop. Would there need to be any programming done to make this work or does the hardware do all that automatically? I have a problem on the kind of project, i would really appreciate any assistance. use 100k for R1 so that the maximum voltage is restricted to below 200V. ". WARNING. There are many different kinds of Proform models. I don't have a heater coil, but I connected up a 100W bulb (40 ohms) in series with the motor to avoid drawing too much current. . Hello Hasan, do you mean replacing 4.7/400 with 1500/400…?? All above told the truth. what are the transistors T1 to T4 should i use? DPDT can be used for reversing the motor manually instead of the bridge network. 2) What are C1 and C2 voltage rates? I see 3 circuits in the article of this web page. Last Updated on April 25, 2020 by Swagatam 269 Comments. That's why I will try with the PWM concept, no matter of his complexity, not to mention that the original development used the same technology. you can employ a 12v AC/DC adapter for powering the ICs separately, and make the negative common with the 130V DC, hi I am really missing something here, so the 130vdc dosent go throught the circuit, so then how is it hook up, ??? ok so just connect the 130dc on the plus where the motor is connected and the – to 0 rail : I don't understand how the motor would get the pluses. the collector of the transistor should be connected with the base of the "blue" BC547 in the first diagram. I should say that C1,C2,C3 rated voltage are 100V. Please and I'm Sorry because i don't know how to make it right. Home Decor. Hi Mah, I referred you the second last design, meaning the second circuit from bottom. OK, how about if I use FJL6920 with TIP29C as the NPN darlington? . . Increasing the 220uF value increases the soft start effect and vice versa. Page 12 F. Check fuses on motor controller. Do you have any idea what to do? Kindly correct me about the mentioned circuit about these concerns; 1) I need to convert 220Ac to 180VDc and connect the positive to place indicated as +12VDc in the Circuit ! The only adjustable component inside is the pot?! Also, I wouldn't need the reverse feature and a simpler circuit would definitely be easier for a beginner like me. Thanks again for all your help. ok sir i will make and let you know. The positive line of R1—-R5 must be connected with the above 300V DC lien through a 100k resistor and a 12V zener attached across the positive R1—R5 positive and the common ground. You think do i need anything more to control the 180VDC, 5.5A motor? Price: $389.99 Sole Incline Adjustment Switch ... Price: $21.99 Transportation Wheel. does the '+' next to the variable resistor indicate 12v Power Supply? On the nameplate of the lathe it says 220 Volt 800 Watt and i know that it is a DC motor. … 1). With details on pinout diagram, examples, applications and download datasheet. I think I got the idea – the RC group together with BC547 works like a time-delay stage so the voltage change from the pot comes to pin 5 delayed depending on the values of R and C. That's smart! I have also some differences – I need one direction and have 180V DC motor at 2.2HP (that's 1640W of power). I think it will be much simpler than the two 555 timers PWM and Darlington stages. Hi, Mr. Majumdar, I did exactly as you told me – a half-wave rectifier with 6A4 diode and a 10uF/400V capacitor, but the voltage between the poles of the capacitor is 325V DC! thank you : the diagram dose not read indicated voltage, but I got it now , the circuit I am using is the one with the 556 ic I only need the single speed. This step should only be undertaken if you have a lot of knowledge about motors and can easily read an electronics schematic. 1) my motor max 180VDC 300watts, i need speed controller from ZERO to 160VDC 2) another motor max 130VDC 300watts, i need speed controller from ZERO to 120VDC. I ran my 220 and 180 vdc motor by using a 4kw dimmer with bridge rectifier feeding the pwm circuit and worked very well. In this post we discuss a simple, accurate, high torque treadmill motor speed controller circuit which may be effectively installed in similar units for acquiring PWM controlled variable speed feature. Hello, mr.Mjumdar, I haven't been there long time ago. As long as I can see it will provide directly 180V from the 230V rectified AC grid voltage in the power line. I'm uploading a PCB picture too. Dear Swagatam, many thanks for your fast replies.I’ve managed to put everything together and pluged in. Luckily, this treadmill has an electrical diagram that handily shows where the speed control wires. Rather I was meaning that all the circuit can be set to power the motor to 180V only no matter what the grid voltage is – with other words we have 220V, but the power transistor passes only 180 of them at maximum turn of the potentiometer. Refer to your original order to verify the warranty period purchased. Also you may have to change the transistor with 400 V transistors. ... Wiring Diagram. I have checked their spec. In other words the upper transistors should be NPN and the lower ones PNP. thank you swagatam. 1/4 watt metal film resistors would work, right?C3 is listed as 1uf, what voltage and style of capacitor should i get? The mosfet currently in use is rated 55V, 133A. Hi Swag greetings to you from the U.S., state of Wisconsin, I just got my hands on a permanent magnet, 120 volt “DC”, 2.7 H.P., 19 amp motor. 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